Comments on: Greece and the Insurrections to Come http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/2008/12/20/greece-and-the-insurrections-to-come/ This website will function as a clearinghouse for bulletins from participating cells, enabling readers to keep abreast of their activities and, more importantly, coordinate activities with them. Mon, 06 Feb 2012 20:05:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Serbia: Fake Revolutions, Real Struggles « Guerrilla News http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/2008/12/20/greece-and-the-insurrections-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-18976 Serbia: Fake Revolutions, Real Struggles « Guerrilla News Sat, 16 Oct 2010 23:52:56 +0000 http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/?p=530#comment-18976 [...] tremendous amount of attention has focused on Greece lately. Looking at the successful anarchist movement there, we can nurture utopian visions to [...] [...] tremendous amount of attention has focused on Greece lately. Looking at the successful anarchist movement there, we can nurture utopian visions to [...]

]]> By: We Are All Jaywalkers – By: Arctic Circle Collective | Cop Block http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/2008/12/20/greece-and-the-insurrections-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-18843 We Are All Jaywalkers – By: Arctic Circle Collective | Cop Block Thu, 17 Jun 2010 17:10:54 +0000 http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/?p=530#comment-18843 [...] the current social order. We find inspiration in the joy and rage of uprisings in Oakland 2008, the December insurrection of Greece 2008,  and the movements in Portland 2009, when people responding to killings by police demonstrated [...] [...] the current social order. We find inspiration in the joy and rage of uprisings in Oakland 2008, the December insurrection of Greece 2008,  and the movements in Portland 2009, when people responding to killings by police demonstrated [...]

]]> By: carmen4thepets http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/2008/12/20/greece-and-the-insurrections-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-18687 carmen4thepets Sat, 09 Jan 2010 06:35:37 +0000 http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/?p=530#comment-18687 [...] once more to the context surrounding large-scale insurrections such as the one that took place in Greece in December 2008. Militant resistance is sustainable in such situations not only because of the initiative of the [...] [...] once more to the context surrounding large-scale insurrections such as the one that took place in Greece in December 2008. Militant resistance is sustainable in such situations not only because of the initiative of the [...]

]]> By: Say You Want an Insurrection at subMedia http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/2008/12/20/greece-and-the-insurrections-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-18684 Say You Want an Insurrection at subMedia Fri, 08 Jan 2010 20:03:57 +0000 http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/?p=530#comment-18684 [...] once more to the context surrounding large-scale insurrections such as the one that took place in Greece in December 2008. Militant resistance is sustainable in such situations not only because of the initiative of the [...] [...] once more to the context surrounding large-scale insurrections such as the one that took place in Greece in December 2008. Militant resistance is sustainable in such situations not only because of the initiative of the [...]

]]> By: Say You Want an Insurrection « Guerrilla News http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/2008/12/20/greece-and-the-insurrections-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-18682 Say You Want an Insurrection « Guerrilla News Fri, 08 Jan 2010 18:46:59 +0000 http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/?p=530#comment-18682 [...] once more to the context surrounding large-scale insurrections such as the one that took place in Greece in December 2008. Militant resistance is sustainable in such situations not only because of the initiative of the [...] [...] once more to the context surrounding large-scale insurrections such as the one that took place in Greece in December 2008. Militant resistance is sustainable in such situations not only because of the initiative of the [...]

]]> By: Going It Alone: Anarchist Action at the Democratic and Republican National Conventions at subMedia http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/2008/12/20/greece-and-the-insurrections-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-17325 Going It Alone: Anarchist Action at the Democratic and Republican National Conventions at subMedia Mon, 11 May 2009 22:14:43 +0000 http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/?p=530#comment-17325 [...] Two weeks later, the global economy collapsed, followed shortly by anarchist-initiated rioting in Greece dwarfing anything in Denver or St. Paul. It’s easy to feel that the DNC and RNC mobilizations [...] [...] Two weeks later, the global economy collapsed, followed shortly by anarchist-initiated rioting in Greece dwarfing anything in Denver or St. Paul. It’s easy to feel that the DNC and RNC mobilizations [...]

]]> By: anon29 http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/2008/12/20/greece-and-the-insurrections-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-17006 anon29 Fri, 02 Jan 2009 06:28:43 +0000 http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/?p=530#comment-17006 <i>The general public in Greece is already sympathetic to resistance movements, owing to the heritage of struggle against the US-supported dictatorship.</i> Hopefully everybody reading this realizes that Greek police are legally barred from entering university campuses unless a crime has beenn committed; this is another legacy of military rule. The riots might have been considerably less successful without this space that the Greek state has basically ceded control over. The general public in Greece is already sympathetic to resistance movements, owing to the heritage of struggle against the US-supported dictatorship.

Hopefully everybody reading this realizes that Greek police are legally barred from entering university campuses unless a crime has beenn committed; this is another legacy of military rule. The riots might have been considerably less successful without this space that the Greek state has basically ceded control over.

]]> By: genocideshow http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/2008/12/20/greece-and-the-insurrections-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-16972 genocideshow Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:02:16 +0000 http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/?p=530#comment-16972 Alexandros Grigoropoulos was 15 years old. He was shot dead by police, under circumstances that I think irrelevant, since nothing can justify the murder of a child at the hands of folk given license to end the lives (metaphorically and unfortunately[?] otherwise) of those that live contrary to the dictates of the prevailing government. Since the pigs (the Greek word for which escapes me, but my sentiments apply to fascist storm troopers the world over) are endowed with such power, I think it only "right" for them to recognize their status as dim-witted demigods and, accordingly, turn the other cheek before the risk of "innocent" (or, better still, ANY) life loss. Instead, the Greek police, in this instance, acted their true roles and posed questions post slaughter. Thus, youthful Greek upstarts (at least according to the USA-filtered media that eventually comes to me) responded with molotov-fueled protests of several weeks' duration against a penetant, passive government. These "anarchists" take for granted their privilege, undermine their own intentions and, ultimately, make the rest of us radicals look bad! I live in New York City, where intoxicated, undercover police zealously put down one Sean Bell with enough bullets to bring cessation to a mad elephant mid-rampage. This they did the night before the man's wedding, outside of a strip club, at the behest of a jittery oinker who thought he heard someone say the word "gun." As I just typed the word "gun," I genuinely expect to be fed many a bullet myself in but a moment. Until then, let me tell you: Here, the police are NOT sorry for the several, ostensible murders they have committed (note the verdicts in reference to this incident, and the subsequent consequences of such). They ARE, also, allowed to enter University property, which I know from drunken personal experience... I say to these Greek "radicals" what I said to Canadian (sorry, Quebec-ian) Anarchists at the annual bookfair in '05 upon hearing of their viciousness toward po-po: YOU ARE LUCKY THAT YOU ARE NOT IN NEW YORK! Here, the police won't restrain their natural propensity to beat and even kill those that threaten the oligarchy they die to protect. They won't sit by as you play anarchist. The community that should have brought street justice to the doorstep of the most trigger-happy of the Sean Bell murderers refrained from doing so, because they knew what would happen were they to even think hard about taking up arms against 5-0... I would love for our mad-as-Hell Greeks to try their hands here, where we desperately need anarchism (and not the violent chaos that the average Fox News acolyte thinks of when hearing said word, but autonomous "choice" to abandon government in favor of the deceptively more orderly institutions of free association and mutual aid). Actually, I would hate for it. There would be many dead "anarchists." True revolutionaries are either dead or imprisoned (ask BPP / BLA members... seriously. Write to them, as they need support behind the walls!). Everyone else either masturbates (metaphorically), plays pretend or sits atop an increasingly uncomfortable fence. Without government complicity, all violent dissent is quickly silenced or, in the case of strong, aforementioned enemies, engaged. My two cents, on a topic growing increasingly cold... Alexandros Grigoropoulos was 15 years old. He was shot dead by police, under circumstances that I think irrelevant, since nothing can justify the murder of a child at the hands of folk given license to end the lives (metaphorically and unfortunately[?] otherwise) of those that live contrary to the dictates of the prevailing government. Since the pigs (the Greek word for which escapes me, but my sentiments apply to fascist storm troopers the world over) are endowed with such power, I think it only “right” for them to recognize their status as dim-witted demigods and, accordingly, turn the other cheek before the risk of “innocent” (or, better still, ANY) life loss. Instead, the Greek police, in this instance, acted their true roles and posed questions post slaughter. Thus, youthful Greek upstarts (at least according to the USA-filtered media that eventually comes to me) responded with molotov-fueled protests of several weeks’ duration against a penetant, passive government. These “anarchists” take for granted their privilege, undermine their own intentions and, ultimately, make the rest of us radicals look bad!
I live in New York City, where intoxicated, undercover police zealously put down one Sean Bell with enough bullets to bring cessation to a mad elephant mid-rampage. This they did the night before the man’s wedding, outside of a strip club, at the behest of a jittery oinker who thought he heard someone say the word “gun.” As I just typed the word “gun,” I genuinely expect to be fed many a bullet myself in but a moment. Until then, let me tell you: Here, the police are NOT sorry for the several, ostensible murders they have committed (note the verdicts in reference to this incident, and the subsequent consequences of such). They ARE, also, allowed to enter University property, which I know from drunken personal experience…
I say to these Greek “radicals” what I said to Canadian (sorry, Quebec-ian) Anarchists at the annual bookfair in ’05 upon hearing of their viciousness toward po-po: YOU ARE LUCKY THAT YOU ARE NOT IN NEW YORK! Here, the police won’t restrain their natural propensity to beat and even kill those that threaten the oligarchy they die to protect. They won’t sit by as you play anarchist. The community that should have brought street justice to the doorstep of the most trigger-happy of the Sean Bell murderers refrained from doing so, because they knew what would happen were they to even think hard about taking up arms against 5-0… I would love for our mad-as-Hell Greeks to try their hands here, where we desperately need anarchism (and not the violent chaos that the average Fox News acolyte thinks of when hearing said word, but autonomous “choice” to abandon government in favor of the deceptively more orderly institutions of free association and mutual aid). Actually, I would hate for it. There would be many dead “anarchists.”
True revolutionaries are either dead or imprisoned (ask BPP / BLA members… seriously. Write to them, as they need support behind the walls!). Everyone else either masturbates (metaphorically), plays pretend or sits atop an increasingly uncomfortable fence. Without government complicity, all violent dissent is quickly silenced or, in the case of strong, aforementioned enemies, engaged.
My two cents, on a topic growing increasingly cold…

]]> By: Как организовать восстание. Греция 2008 http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/2008/12/20/greece-and-the-insurrections-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-16968 Как организовать восстание. Греция 2008 Mon, 29 Dec 2008 23:14:50 +0000 http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/?p=530#comment-16968 [...] одного из первых интервью участников событий, которые потрясли Грецию после убийства полицейским 15-летнего [...] [...] одного из первых интервью участников событий, которые потрясли Грецию после убийства полицейским 15-летнего [...]

]]> By: Takku - Kreikka ja tulevat kapinat http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/2008/12/20/greece-and-the-insurrections-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-16963 Takku - Kreikka ja tulevat kapinat Mon, 29 Dec 2008 00:16:29 +0000 http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/?p=530#comment-16963 [...] 26.12. 2008 @ 16:10 Katselukertoja 52 CrimethInc. 20. joulukuuta [...] [...] 26.12. 2008 @ 16:10 Katselukertoja 52 CrimethInc. 20. joulukuuta [...]

]]> By: Anarcho-infantilism « Rethinking Anarchism http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/2008/12/20/greece-and-the-insurrections-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-16957 Anarcho-infantilism « Rethinking Anarchism Sun, 28 Dec 2008 05:45:21 +0000 http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/?p=530#comment-16957 [...] of the realities facing working people and the possibilities this creates (take Crimethinc’s recent assertion that the rebellion in Greece had little to do with economic conditions, for [...] [...] of the realities facing working people and the possibilities this creates (take Crimethinc’s recent assertion that the rebellion in Greece had little to do with economic conditions, for [...]

]]> By: How to Organize an Insurrection « If the First Amendment fails, use the Second one http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/2008/12/20/greece-and-the-insurrections-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-16952 How to Organize an Insurrection « If the First Amendment fails, use the Second one Fri, 26 Dec 2008 20:17:11 +0000 http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/?p=530#comment-16952 [...] “We are pleased to present one of the first inside reports from participants in the upheavals that shook Greece after the police murder of 15-year-old Alexandros Grigoropoulos in the anarchist neighborhood of [...] [...] “We are pleased to present one of the first inside reports from participants in the upheavals that shook Greece after the police murder of 15-year-old Alexandros Grigoropoulos in the anarchist neighborhood of [...]

]]> By: CrimethInc. Far East Blog » How to Organize an Insurrection http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/2008/12/20/greece-and-the-insurrections-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-16943 CrimethInc. Far East Blog » How to Organize an Insurrection Thu, 25 Dec 2008 19:32:44 +0000 http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/?p=530#comment-16943 [...] We are pleased to present one of the first inside reports from participants in the upheavals that shook Greece after the police murder of 15-year-old Alexandros Grigoropoulos in the anarchist neighborhood of [...] [...] We are pleased to present one of the first inside reports from participants in the upheavals that shook Greece after the police murder of 15-year-old Alexandros Grigoropoulos in the anarchist neighborhood of [...]

]]> By: texts for nothing : On the situation in Greece, part 3 http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/2008/12/20/greece-and-the-insurrections-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-16936 texts for nothing : On the situation in Greece, part 3 Wed, 24 Dec 2008 02:01:49 +0000 http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/?p=530#comment-16936 [...] going strong for over two weeks. As CrimethInc. points out, that has only been possible because Greek anarchists were already organized: Thanks to a network of social centers, a deep-seated sense that neighborhoods such as the one in [...] [...] going strong for over two weeks. As CrimethInc. points out, that has only been possible because Greek anarchists were already organized: Thanks to a network of social centers, a deep-seated sense that neighborhoods such as the one in [...]

]]> By: ret marut http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/2008/12/20/greece-and-the-insurrections-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-16934 ret marut Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:31:00 +0000 http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/?p=530#comment-16934 This just in from Greek comrades: "In http://voidnetwork.blogspot.com, and also the announcements from http://voidmirror.blogspot.com, all the 3 essays are original material from the moments of the insurrection (and even if they are poetical and fast-written they express deeply the feelings of the revolt in Athens). Also you have to take a look in these blogs that are the blogs from the biggest central squats of the revolt and in all of them (if you search all of them good) you will find many original answers in English: General Assembly of the Squated Athens School of Economics (800 people assembly+many others) http://katalipsiasoee.blogspot.com/ Assembly of Insurrected workers from the building of General Confederation of Workers (syndicalist official socialist, reformist and communist that from 1918 until now is the biggest obstacle for all workers of Greece and this is the first time that some people dare to squat their building... and they freaked out!) http://gseefreezone.blogspot.com/ ...and of course the blog and the radio from the center of the struggle, the Athens Polytechnic School, also with many announcmenets in English http://katalipsipolytexneiou.blogspot.com Use also our blog... that has very very big influence to the blending of the chaotic (non-ideological) youngsters with the anarchists: http://voidnetwork.blogspot.com" This just in from Greek comrades:

“In http://voidnetwork.blogspot.com, and also the announcements from
http://voidmirror.blogspot.com, all the 3 essays are original material from the moments of the insurrection (and even if they are poetical and fast-written they express deeply the feelings of the revolt in Athens).

Also you have to take a look in these blogs that are the blogs from the biggest central squats of the revolt and in all of them (if you search all of them good) you will find many original answers in English:
General Assembly of the Squated Athens School of Economics (800 people assembly+many others) http://katalipsiasoee.blogspot.com/

Assembly of Insurrected workers from the building of General Confederation of Workers (syndicalist official socialist, reformist and communist that from 1918 until now is the biggest obstacle for all workers of Greece and this is the first time that some people dare to squat their building… and they freaked out!)
http://gseefreezone.blogspot.com/

…and of course the blog and the radio from the center of the struggle, the Athens Polytechnic School, also with many announcmenets in English
http://katalipsipolytexneiou.blogspot.com

Use also our blog… that has very very big influence to the blending of the chaotic (non-ideological) youngsters with the anarchists:
http://voidnetwork.blogspot.com“

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