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		<title>By: Fired for plagiarising plagiarism? at Last Straw</title>
		<link>http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/2008/02/12/fired-for-plagiarizing-plagiarism/#comment-12607</link>
		<dc:creator>Fired for plagiarising plagiarism? at Last Straw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Fired for Plagiarizing Plagiarism &#124; 12 February, 2008 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Fired for Plagiarizing Plagiarism | 12 February, 2008 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Blankey86</title>
		<link>http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/2008/02/12/fired-for-plagiarizing-plagiarism/#comment-11608</link>
		<dc:creator>Blankey86</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of illogical accusations of plagiarism:  http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8570.html

Mmmm politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of illogical accusations of plagiarism:  <a href="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8570.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8570.html</a></p>
<p>Mmmm politics.</p>
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		<title>By: monkey_sj</title>
		<link>http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/2008/02/12/fired-for-plagiarizing-plagiarism/#comment-11573</link>
		<dc:creator>monkey_sj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 00:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I'm glad you got your story out somewhere. Christiaan Briggs posted something on ze's blog about it, too. Everybody (well, definitely not everybody I'm sure, but all parties involved) but The Daily Toreader get it, eh? I sent a letter to the editor of Daily Toreader. Told them their kneejerk reaction is stupid. Maybe won't make a difference, but at least they'll know more than one person disagrees with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I&#8217;m glad you got your story out somewhere. Christiaan Briggs posted something on ze&#8217;s blog about it, too. Everybody (well, definitely not everybody I&#8217;m sure, but all parties involved) but The Daily Toreader get it, eh? I sent a letter to the editor of Daily Toreader. Told them their kneejerk reaction is stupid. Maybe won&#8217;t make a difference, but at least they&#8217;ll know more than one person disagrees with them.</p>
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		<title>By: Reynard</title>
		<link>http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/2008/02/12/fired-for-plagiarizing-plagiarism/#comment-11460</link>
		<dc:creator>Reynard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 15:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No worries my friend!  For me, it's at the point where I can look back and laugh at the irony.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No worries my friend!  For me, it&#8217;s at the point where I can look back and laugh at the irony.</p>
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		<title>By: Christiaan</title>
		<link>http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/2008/02/12/fired-for-plagiarizing-plagiarism/#comment-11446</link>
		<dc:creator>Christiaan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 07:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, it's Christiaan Briggs here. Sorry to hear about all the shit you've been put through. I was on an email-free holiday in NZ so wasn't aware this had taken place. I'd be more than happy to provide testimony in a defamation or libel case. You'd reach quite an audience with these ideas if you were to take this to court!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, it&#8217;s Christiaan Briggs here. Sorry to hear about all the shit you&#8217;ve been put through. I was on an email-free holiday in NZ so wasn&#8217;t aware this had taken place. I&#8217;d be more than happy to provide testimony in a defamation or libel case. You&#8217;d reach quite an audience with these ideas if you were to take this to court!</p>
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		<title>By: Reynard</title>
		<link>http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/2008/02/12/fired-for-plagiarizing-plagiarism/#comment-11399</link>
		<dc:creator>Reynard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha, thanks everyone.  Yeah, I'm the guy who was fired from this newspaper.  I've considered many suggestions, like flyers, radio shows, and legal action.  Several lawyers I've talked to claim that I have a case for defamation of character, perhaps even libel.  Unfortunately, my article was so similar to Briggs that it would ultimately come down to a case of my word against theirs.

It has been a stressful and taxing situation that made me quite angry, but in the end, I've realized that I'd rather expend my energies pursuing something productive and meaningful.  I'd rather use my time finding those who agree with me, rather than endlessly quibbling with those who never will.

I haven't completely ruled out going to another media outlet, though I am quite willing to just let it go.  I expected to face resistance, for we are fighting the status quo itself here, I just didn't think it would be this...haha, well, unfair.

Anyway, thanks for calling attention to this CWC, and for listening to my side of the story.  Fortunately, this provides me a way to intertwine myself with this community further.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha, thanks everyone.  Yeah, I&#8217;m the guy who was fired from this newspaper.  I&#8217;ve considered many suggestions, like flyers, radio shows, and legal action.  Several lawyers I&#8217;ve talked to claim that I have a case for defamation of character, perhaps even libel.  Unfortunately, my article was so similar to Briggs that it would ultimately come down to a case of my word against theirs.</p>
<p>It has been a stressful and taxing situation that made me quite angry, but in the end, I&#8217;ve realized that I&#8217;d rather expend my energies pursuing something productive and meaningful.  I&#8217;d rather use my time finding those who agree with me, rather than endlessly quibbling with those who never will.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t completely ruled out going to another media outlet, though I am quite willing to just let it go.  I expected to face resistance, for we are fighting the status quo itself here, I just didn&#8217;t think it would be this&#8230;haha, well, unfair.</p>
<p>Anyway, thanks for calling attention to this CWC, and for listening to my side of the story.  Fortunately, this provides me a way to intertwine myself with this community further.</p>
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		<title>By: Pseudonym</title>
		<link>http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/2008/02/12/fired-for-plagiarizing-plagiarism/#comment-11380</link>
		<dc:creator>Pseudonym</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 23:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry buddy, though I agree with b. traven - brighter pastures ahoy!  

Additionally, if you're looking for a silver lining, perhaps the controversy surrounding your departure will elevate the interest in the original story far more than it ever could on its own.  Plus, you've already  got the sympathy of the other students - it's not as If anyone chafes more at being indoctrinated into the anti-plagiarism society than college students.  Your story is pretty newsworthy for students though.  If possible, contact another paper (possibly the other campus paper?) or even a local TV station and see if they'll interview you and run a story  where you attribute the 'real' source as D.O.W.N.O.L. and inspire a whole other lot to read the book.  Making a stink about first amendment rights and/or threatening libel/defamation/false light usually draws attention in the academic world.  After all, you said yourself that the paper is painting you in a false light which is defamatory to your character.  According to Wikipedia (and it's different even within regions of the US): In law, defamation (also called vilification, slander, and libel) is the communication of a statement that makes a false claim, expressively stated or implied to be factual, that may harm the reputation of an individual, business, product, group, government or nation. Most jurisdictions allow legal actions, civil and/or criminal, to deter various kinds of defamation and retaliate against groundless criticism.

This is not to say you ACTUALLY want to pursue a case as they can be humiliating and expensive, but a convincing threat would sure roust up some controversy if you've got the energy and will to pursue such ends.

Many folks are desperate for ideas that can help them break into a new world but haven't a clue that they already exist.  Perhaps you can help to change that.

Best of luck in your future endeavors!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry buddy, though I agree with b. traven - brighter pastures ahoy!  </p>
<p>Additionally, if you&#8217;re looking for a silver lining, perhaps the controversy surrounding your departure will elevate the interest in the original story far more than it ever could on its own.  Plus, you&#8217;ve already  got the sympathy of the other students - it&#8217;s not as If anyone chafes more at being indoctrinated into the anti-plagiarism society than college students.  Your story is pretty newsworthy for students though.  If possible, contact another paper (possibly the other campus paper?) or even a local TV station and see if they&#8217;ll interview you and run a story  where you attribute the &#8216;real&#8217; source as D.O.W.N.O.L. and inspire a whole other lot to read the book.  Making a stink about first amendment rights and/or threatening libel/defamation/false light usually draws attention in the academic world.  After all, you said yourself that the paper is painting you in a false light which is defamatory to your character.  According to Wikipedia (and it&#8217;s different even within regions of the US): In law, defamation (also called vilification, slander, and libel) is the communication of a statement that makes a false claim, expressively stated or implied to be factual, that may harm the reputation of an individual, business, product, group, government or nation. Most jurisdictions allow legal actions, civil and/or criminal, to deter various kinds of defamation and retaliate against groundless criticism.</p>
<p>This is not to say you ACTUALLY want to pursue a case as they can be humiliating and expensive, but a convincing threat would sure roust up some controversy if you&#8217;ve got the energy and will to pursue such ends.</p>
<p>Many folks are desperate for ideas that can help them break into a new world but haven&#8217;t a clue that they already exist.  Perhaps you can help to change that.</p>
<p>Best of luck in your future endeavors!</p>
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		<title>By: d</title>
		<link>http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/2008/02/12/fired-for-plagiarizing-plagiarism/#comment-11363</link>
		<dc:creator>d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was a pretty fucked up relationship in general. But just as I went from crass plagiarism to more creative re-use of ideas, I went from mere adultery to a much better situation. Yay, half-revolutions!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was a pretty fucked up relationship in general. But just as I went from crass plagiarism to more creative re-use of ideas, I went from mere adultery to a much better situation. Yay, half-revolutions!</p>
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		<title>By: pfm</title>
		<link>http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/2008/02/12/fired-for-plagiarizing-plagiarism/#comment-11362</link>
		<dc:creator>pfm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That sucks for your partner. It's too bad you didn't develop better communication before violating their trust.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That sucks for your partner. It&#8217;s too bad you didn&#8217;t develop better communication before violating their trust.</p>
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		<title>By: d</title>
		<link>http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/2008/02/12/fired-for-plagiarizing-plagiarism/#comment-11358</link>
		<dc:creator>d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 15:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bummer.

On a more positive note, I plagiarized an entire conclusion to a college final paper from DOWNOL's section on morality. Instead of taking a couple hours to rehash the same ol' argument against heteronormativity, I stole from the book and spent an afternoon in the sun having a picnic and cheating on my partner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bummer.</p>
<p>On a more positive note, I plagiarized an entire conclusion to a college final paper from DOWNOL&#8217;s section on morality. Instead of taking a couple hours to rehash the same ol&#8217; argument against heteronormativity, I stole from the book and spent an afternoon in the sun having a picnic and cheating on my partner.</p>
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