Comments on: CrimethInc. Groups Endorse RNC Strategy http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/2007/12/15/crimethinc-groups-endorse-rnc-strategy/ This website will function as a clearinghouse for bulletins from participating cells, enabling readers to keep abreast of their activities and, more importantly, coordinate activities with them. Sat, 11 Oct 2008 06:37:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: timotiis http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/2007/12/15/crimethinc-groups-endorse-rnc-strategy/#comment-11598 timotiis Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:40:42 +0000 http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/2007/12/15/crimethinc-groups-endorse-rnc-strategy/#comment-11598 Please remember to distinguish a vote from a voice. A vote is anonymous, silent, an implicit way of accepting the government. A voice is loud, gets in people's faces, makes a scene and a mess. What better way to get our message out there than to blockade the conventions? Get people thinking about the scam that is the 'democratic process', where you can pick one corporate suit or another corporate suit. What sort of choice is that? As for the rigged elections --- would it have made the slightest bit of difference. Instead of republicans, democrats. Big deal, they're both political parties, they both support the system, so I support neither of them. We feel that the best way of grabbing the attention of the people is through protests, because telling the government 'we don't like you' doesn't make the slightest bit of difference. They know we don't like them --- we're anarchists --- but as long as the majority of the population are still unaware that you can live without a government, the government are safe. Get on the streets, get our message out, and go straight to the people. Voting is not a voice, it's a gag. Please remember to distinguish a vote from a voice. A vote is anonymous, silent, an implicit way of accepting the government. A voice is loud, gets in people’s faces, makes a scene and a mess. What better way to get our message out there than to blockade the conventions? Get people thinking about the scam that is the ‘democratic process’, where you can pick one corporate suit or another corporate suit. What sort of choice is that?

As for the rigged elections — would it have made the slightest bit of difference. Instead of republicans, democrats. Big deal, they’re both political parties, they both support the system, so I support neither of them.

We feel that the best way of grabbing the attention of the people is through protests, because telling the government ‘we don’t like you’ doesn’t make the slightest bit of difference. They know we don’t like them — we’re anarchists — but as long as the majority of the population are still unaware that you can live without a government, the government are safe. Get on the streets, get our message out, and go straight to the people. Voting is not a voice, it’s a gag.

]]> By: Burn_Your_Own_Town http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/2007/12/15/crimethinc-groups-endorse-rnc-strategy/#comment-10700 Burn_Your_Own_Town Sat, 26 Jan 2008 04:10:03 +0000 http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/2007/12/15/crimethinc-groups-endorse-rnc-strategy/#comment-10700 as an adult who grew out of anarchism, and not into a system and a resident of st. paul, I don't understand the purpose of coming to my town and fucking shit up. I mean, how many anarchists who are going to show up actually vote? your worried about your voice, but it's not like you cared to use it anyways. right? I'm guilty of this as well. I don't vote, but I also don't form blockades at RNC's and DNCs. And if your voice is really the issue. if that's really what your concerned is not being heard, then maybe take into consideration using your activism as a way to try to get out the truth about the fact that the last 2 elections have been rigged anyways. you think you don't have a voice, but you don't seem to realize, that this is nothing new. so, long story short. if you come to st. paul, don't look for minnesota nice. you won't find it here. -Burn_Your_Own_Town (i'm sure it's full of rich kids just like you) as an adult who grew out of anarchism, and not into a system and a resident of st. paul, I don’t understand the purpose of coming to my town and fucking shit up.

I mean, how many anarchists who are going to show up actually vote? your worried about your voice, but it’s not like you cared to use it anyways. right?

I’m guilty of this as well. I don’t vote, but I also don’t form blockades at RNC’s and DNCs. And if your voice is really the issue. if that’s really what your concerned is not being heard, then maybe take into consideration using your activism as a way to try to get out the truth about the fact that the last 2 elections have been rigged anyways. you think you don’t have a voice, but you don’t seem to realize, that this is nothing new.

so, long story short. if you come to st. paul, don’t look for minnesota nice. you won’t find it here.

-Burn_Your_Own_Town (i’m sure it’s full of rich kids just like you)

]]> By: Kozyavin http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/2007/12/15/crimethinc-groups-endorse-rnc-strategy/#comment-10205 Kozyavin Fri, 04 Jan 2008 05:50:37 +0000 http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/2007/12/15/crimethinc-groups-endorse-rnc-strategy/#comment-10205 It just so happens that I work at the Xcel Energy Center/RiverCentre which is located in St. Paul for those of you who will inevitably confuse it with Minneapolis. If anyone has any questions I'll let you know all I can. It just so happens that I work at the Xcel Energy Center/RiverCentre which is located in St. Paul for those of you who will inevitably confuse it with Minneapolis. If anyone has any questions I’ll let you know all I can.

]]> By: CaptainMetalgoat http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/2007/12/15/crimethinc-groups-endorse-rnc-strategy/#comment-10039 CaptainMetalgoat Mon, 31 Dec 2007 05:03:44 +0000 http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/2007/12/15/crimethinc-groups-endorse-rnc-strategy/#comment-10039 Fred, I think this is fighting fire with fire. Our voices have been denied under the two-party system, and we must seek unconventional means in order to make ourselves known. Besides, there are many other ways for those who control the mainstream (the RNC) to "put there ideas out." The protests, I think, are to deny the most prestigious of them to the ruling class. Fred, I think this is fighting fire with fire. Our voices have been denied under the two-party system, and we must seek unconventional means in order to make ourselves known. Besides, there are many other ways for those who control the mainstream (the RNC) to “put there ideas out.” The protests, I think, are to deny the most prestigious of them to the ruling class.

]]> By: fred http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/2007/12/15/crimethinc-groups-endorse-rnc-strategy/#comment-9908 fred Sat, 29 Dec 2007 00:10:36 +0000 http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/2007/12/15/crimethinc-groups-endorse-rnc-strategy/#comment-9908 I'm confused....doesn't the tactics describe here functionally deny people their right to freely participate in the political process as they choose? I mean, I think protest is cool and needed, but to act in such a way as to keep delegates from their meetings, I don't know. That seems kind of like damaging printing presses so your opponents don't get to put their ideas out there, which is kind of a fascist tactic. I’m confused….doesn’t the tactics describe here functionally deny people their right to freely participate in the political process as they choose?

I mean, I think protest is cool and needed, but to act in such a way as to keep delegates from their meetings, I don’t know.

That seems kind of like damaging printing presses so your opponents don’t get to put their ideas out there, which is kind of a fascist tactic.

]]> By: nanamin http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/2007/12/15/crimethinc-groups-endorse-rnc-strategy/#comment-9499 nanamin Sat, 22 Dec 2007 03:45:36 +0000 http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/2007/12/15/crimethinc-groups-endorse-rnc-strategy/#comment-9499 I received my book in the mail today; it's beautiful, and i'm completely stunned. I plan on reading it in one sitting, when I have time this weekend. thank you for settling for nothing less than excellence I received my book in the mail today; it’s beautiful, and i’m completely stunned.

I plan on reading it in one sitting, when I have time this weekend.

thank you for settling for nothing less than excellence

]]> By: strongwindsahead http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/2007/12/15/crimethinc-groups-endorse-rnc-strategy/#comment-9225 strongwindsahead Tue, 18 Dec 2007 05:36:11 +0000 http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/2007/12/15/crimethinc-groups-endorse-rnc-strategy/#comment-9225 Funny that the first two people to comment on this post are Denverites. Anyways, for those interested in participating in the direct action strategy for the DNC, it will be put forth at the next Denver consulta- Jan 18-21. To RSVP and/or get more information email unconventionaldenver@riseup.net We'll hopefully have a website up soon exclusively for the consulta and Unconventional Denver in general. Funny that the first two people to comment on this post are Denverites. Anyways, for those interested in participating in the direct action strategy for the DNC, it will be put forth at the next Denver consulta- Jan 18-21. To RSVP and/or get more information email unconventionaldenver@riseup.net We’ll hopefully have a website up soon exclusively for the consulta and Unconventional Denver in general.

]]> By: rkamens http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/2007/12/15/crimethinc-groups-endorse-rnc-strategy/#comment-9007 rkamens Sat, 15 Dec 2007 18:12:17 +0000 http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/2007/12/15/crimethinc-groups-endorse-rnc-strategy/#comment-9007 Props to Crimethinc for supporting the crashing of the *NC. See you there, Comrade Ringo Kamens Denver, CO resident Props to Crimethinc for supporting the crashing of the *NC.
See you there,
Comrade Ringo Kamens
Denver, CO resident

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